he lobbied john for a child of their own. >> he convinced me. so then we used, may i have george, the red, for just a minute? >> reporter: their old friend laura volunteered to carry george. >> the four kids all call us daddy and papa. and even though these kids live in minneapolis. and these kids live in the southwest. we're all consider ourselves family and the kids all consider themselves siblings. >> the tough thing is when we are at a party and somebody says how many children do you have? it is a tough question. >> reporter: john and andrew know that not everyone thinks their family arrangement is so wonderful. >> some people will find it offensive. and one of the birth announcements was returned by somebody who said that our lifestyle didn't agree with their christian values. i respect that. >> reporter: families can be tough to navigate. growing up, andrew's parents struggled to cope with his dyslex dyslexia. they were told he would never read. you still have dyslexia? >> i still have dyslexia. i can't write by hand. i write letters out o